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+== Introduction ==
->
-> Several people asked me for a translation of the Iroquois Opening Address
+Several people asked [[User:Oskenontona| me]] for a translation of the Iroquois Opening Address to Creation, Ohenton Karihwatehkwen (The Words that Come Before All Else) that Frances had asked me to do last Friday.
-> to Creation, Ohenton Karihwatehkwen (The Words that Come Before All Else)
-> that Frances had asked me to do last Friday.
+To learn the Opening was one of my learning objectives, and I was happy to do it; it was good practice.
->
-> To learn the Opening was one of my learning objectives, and I was happy to
+As I mentioned, the Opening has a frozen form, but free words. Everyone says it differently, even the same speaker on different occasions.
-> do it; it was good practice.
->
+That being said, I prefer to provide a variety of samples, all of which can be found on the internet as follows:
-> As I mentioned, the Opening has a frozen form, but free words. Everyone
-> says it differently, even the same speaker on different occasions.
+== Very short version ==
->
-> That being said, I prefer to provide a variety of samples, all of which
+http://www.tyendinaga.net/ohenton/
-> can be found on the internet as follows:
->
+== Super short version ==
-> Very short version
-> http://www.tyendinaga.net/ohenton/
+http://dream-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/08/tyendinaga-powwow-ohenton.html
->
-> Super short version
+== Very Short version with graphics ==
-> http://dream-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/08/tyendinaga-powwow-ohenton.html
->
+http://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/arts/hoi5/page1.html
-> Very Short version with graphics
-> http://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/arts/hoi5/page1.html
+== Short version ==
->
-> Short version
+http://www.peace4turtleisland.org/pages/thanksgiving.htm
-> http://www.peace4turtleisland.org/pages/thanksgiving.htm
->
+The version I did was slightly longer than the longest above; however, it was still a short version.
-> The version I did was slightly longer than the longest above; however, it
-> was still a short version.
+For several longer versions see "From the earth to beyond the sky : an ethnographic approach to four Longhouse Iroquois speech events" by Michael K Foster (1974). It's in the Webster Library. Note however these versions are quite Christianized, reflecting the times (19th and 20th centuries)
->
+and place (Ontario).
-> For several longer versions see "From the earth to beyond the sky : an
-> ethnographic approach to four Longhouse Iroquois speech events" by Michael
+For a discussion about the Opening, see "Spoken here : travels among threatened languages" written by Mark Abley (2003), the Montreal Gazette reporter. This book contains a chapter on the Mohawk language entitled "The words that come before all else." This chapter reveals a significant number of interviews and explains some of the difficulties translating Mohawk into English.
-> K Foster (1974). It's in the Webster Library. Note however these versions
-> are quite Christianized, reflecting the times (19th and 20th centuries)
+Another source that explains this difficulty is the film series "Milennium" which Jonathon has in his possession at the moment.
-> and place (Ontario).
->
+My favorite source is my old classmate Jimmy Gilbert who describes the difference as that between color TV and black & white. He also compares listening to Mohawk being like eating three-flavored ice-cream, while listening to English is like eating vanilla.
-> For a discussion about the Opening, see "Spoken here : travels among
-> threatened languages" written by Mark Abley (2003), the Montreal Gazette
+At a later time, should the occasion arise, I would like to take the risk of saying a few words about the last Friday's version.
-> reporter. This book contains a chapter on the Mohawk language entitled
-> "The words that come before all else." This chapter reveals a significant
+[[Category:Indigenous]]
-> number of interviews and explains some of the difficulties translating
-> Mohawk into English.
->
-> Another source that explains this difficulty is the film series
-> "Milennium" which Jonathon has in his possession at the moment.
->
-> My favorite source is my old classmate Jimmy Gilbert who describes the
-> difference as that between color TV and black & white. He also compares
-> listening to Mohawk being like eating three-flavored ice-cream, while
-> listening to English is like eating vanilla.
->
-> At a later time, should the occasion arise, I would like to take the risk
-> of saying a few words about the last Friday's version.